Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: You start your week smiling with your friends Kathy Zant and Michelle Prashat. It's time to get ready for some weekly motivation with WP motivate.
Happy Friday, Kathy.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Happy Friday, Michelle. How are you?
[00:00:18] Speaker A: I am better now than I was 24 hours ago.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: Good.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So as you know, I went to wordcamp Asia, and. And there's this little thing about flying to Asia that means you sit in this giant metal tube with 500 people you've never met before. And even with a mask or not, you take your mask off to eat, you touch things, and there's only so much you can do as far as sanitation, right?
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: And I came back with an upper respiratory infection. Tested for COVID three times, negative again. I spent 12 hours at the emergency room last night. They tested me for a pneumonia. They tested me for COVID, like, all the things. Then, because I'd spent 48 hours on planes, they put me in the CAT scan with the contrast dye that they put in you, which, by the way, washes this warmth over your whole body where you feel like you're going to die. And they warn you, as soon as it gets to your private areas, you will feel like you wet yourself. That's how warm it gets. But you didn't.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Weird.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: And I was like, are you sure I didn't? Because that felt like I did. She's like, no, you're all good. You're dry.
So all of that. And then because I was having so much wheezing, I have asthma. So when I get a chest congestion, it just turns into unable to breathe for a long time. And it was just time to go and have it all checked out. So no embolisms, no pneumonia, no COVID, none of that.
But magnesium treatment, which they put everything through an IV. Like, boom, magnesium coursing through your body. Okay? Boom, prednisone coursing through your body. And here, have some breathing treatments where you hold this thing and it looks like it's smoking at the end and all of that kind of stuff. Bottom line is, I'm breathing much better today than I was yesterday. I am exhausted because I didn't get home from the ER till almost 03:00 a.m. And then I got up to do some meetings. I took it easy today. I haven't worked all day, but I did have a couple of meetings I couldn't put off.
So I'm going to take the weekend to recuperate a little more. I missed two days of flying last week because our flight was canceled out of San Francisco. Spent a night in San Francisco, and then I slept Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and most of Sunday and went back to work Monday. But it's been a little.
I haven't been on the top of my game, I'll say it that way.
Takes a little while. When you get sick, you got to get better. Yeah.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: Plus traveling just takes so much out of you anyway.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: A 13 hours time difference.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And that's a lot. And then just picking.
That's why I didn't travel. Like, right after he had the stroke, there were all these things and I was like, I did not feel safe traveling at all. I didn't feel like it was going to be. I didn't want to come home with something and then give it to him with his immune system not being up to par. So just wasn't going to do it. But wow, you did it and you survived.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: And the event itself, wow.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: So good. The organizers of these major word camps puts, I mean, every word camp, I don't mean to say only the major word camps, but the major word camps are herculean. Like, I've been an organizer for word camp us, and I've organized several local camps, and the amount of time and energy put into 2000 people showing up versus 100 people showing up, it is different. Right. And so I will say with these huge schedules and vendor rooms or sponsor rooms and contributor days and just all of the tracks and the talks and everything, they just did such a good job. Everything was handicapped accessible, and I was not the only person in a wheelchair. So when they asked me about it, it also accommodated other people, which was pretty cool.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: Nice. Were you consulting with the organizers on any of that?
[00:04:16] Speaker A: So, I mean, I wasn't an official consultant, but they wanted to make sure that I was accommodated. So they would ask me questions here and there to say, like, we've got a ramp for the stage that you're going to go on. It's this wide. Will that accommodate your scooter? And everything was perfect. The only thing that made me grit my teeth and hope I wasn't going to die was the ramp backstage to get on the main stage for pictures and everything at the end was like at a 45 degree angle, and 45 degrees doesn't look like much on paper. It's a lot when you're riding up it and you're feeling like you're going to evil Knievel off the other side.
So as I'm going up, I was like, I have a new scooter that does, like, jeff didn't have to push my scooter at all like he did in other places. Except that last trip, like, two of the organizers, like, we got you. They gave it the extra oomph it needed to get up on the stage. So it was all wonderful. It really was. That's great. And my selfie challenge, man, I just am so blessed that people lean into that with me and want to take selfies all the time.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: And this is the first time.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: How many?
[00:05:24] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. How many did it end up being? I want to say like 75, maybe more. I don't know. Yeah, I was just taking them off of Twitter as much as I could find them. And then I was like, oh, some people put them on Facebook. So I went there and got them. I got a couple off of LinkedIn. Some people dm'd them to me. And then after I put a little video together, which I think you saw online. Yeah.
Then I had other people going, oh, I forgot to send you mine. And I didn't post it. Here's some more. So I'm going to send them or include them. So I have that for some posts that I'm, blog posts I'm doing that will have everybody in.
Michelle.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: Michelle and me. Hashtag was trending for a while. Was it like Saturday morning?
[00:06:07] Speaker A: I think so. Anita on Twitter did a screenshot and she's like, imagine me seeing hashtag Michelle and me trending on Twitter. And I know that person and I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm like Kate Middleton or something.
Not really. If you're listening and you think my ego is that big, I promise you, I could.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Be Kate middleton of WordPress. How's that?
[00:06:32] Speaker A: There you go. For sure. Something like that.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: But you are royalty.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: It blew my mind, though. So I screen captured her tweet that, had that in that. So that was pretty exciting. And just, I posted that and people are retweeting it, like, quote, tweeting it with, see if you can find me because there's only 1 second per picture and it's over a minute long. So what is that? That's 100 seconds. So 100 pictures, I guess, right. Including the ends, the beginning ends. So that's a lot. I included one of me on stage.
Yeah. How'd you talk? Oh, my gosh, the talk went so well. I had people in the audience because Tim Ferriss had canceled. So I actually had people in the room, which was.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Have, were you scheduled up against?
[00:07:24] Speaker A: Was, yeah, I saw that Tim Ferriss is scheduled. I was like, well, people can watch mine on WordPress TV.
So my joke to everybody was, I'm so sorry Tim Ferriss canceled when he found out he had to speak up against me.
I love it.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: That is so funny because I'm sure.
[00:07:43] Speaker A: The man has no clue who I am, which is fine.
[00:07:46] Speaker B: He does know if he heard that.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: Joke, he was too intimidated to have a talk at the same time as mine was going on. But I had a room full of people, everybody was engaged. And I think the mark of a good talk, and I think you've experienced this as well, is that there's good questions afterwards, but ask deeper questions than what you presented. So if people are feeling like, oh, shoot, nobody's asking questions. So they ask a question that asks you to reiterate something. You're like, maybe I missed the mark. But people were asking those deeper questions of how they can be involved and how they can be better allies.
So that was super exciting.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: That's amazing. Congratulations.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: Thank you. And I was on the contributor day, I was on the photos team. So I ran the table for contributor day and we had, I think, 20 new photo contributors that day. And we moderated 206 photos into the directory. And of course we had a few we couldn't allow into quality or faces. There's a lot of guidelines. So we probably moderated totally, probably like 252, 75 pictures just in the space of contributor day, which was pretty cool.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: That's so amazing. Yeah, that's great.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: It sounds like it was an incredibly successful event. I'm sure you saw lots know the usual crowd, but Asia, you had to have met like tons of new people too.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: I did, for sure.
And I had some really good meetings with people that I kind of knew through Twitter and things like that, but had never met face to face.
And some of our team that I had never met before, I'd never met Channi Sorohi. And so she and I got to know each other a little bit better. And she's going to actually co host episode of WP Constellations with me coming up. Yeah. So pulling more people into it and just making connections and enjoying the old faces, the friends, and also just meeting so many new people and getting to know people and connecting on LinkedIn and everything afterwards, it just makes you feel like you can be a resource in a network and you also have new network people that you can call on too, which is always fun.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
Were there more people in Taipei than there were in Bangkok last year?
[00:10:06] Speaker A: I think it was about the same, if I'm remembering correctly, they sold 1800 tickets. They had, I think, like 1400 people show up. There were a number of people who either got sick at the last minute. That always happens. Right. Or who unfortunately, didn't get their visas approved in time, which is always just. So.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: It happens.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: It does. And sometimes it doesn't matter how early you apply, it's just depending what country you're coming from. And some of those things, it happened.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: To a lot of people who wanted to come to us, too. And I'm sure it'll happen to people who are trying to go to.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: Like.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: You'Ve been to Eu, you've been to Asia, you've been to us multiple times. How would you compare the know, these flagship word camp? Like, is there a certain thing, like, oh, Asia does this did, what did you feel about, like, what was the.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah, so, and this is not to disparage any of the others. I'll tell everybody's got their positives and the places where they might struggle a little bit. Right. But I will say that the Asia team is like a well oiled.
Yeah. Like, I did not see a mistake. Maybe there were. And they covered them up real well. I don't know. But from signage, they had big. Those floor stickers that sent you in the right directions outside the rooms with the track. Who was speaking that day. The food was incredible. It was all box lunch type thing, but it was hot food. I tried some really good food. Only one thing I didn't care for in the entire week.
But my thing is, don't tell me what it is and I'll eat it, but if I know what it is.
I was a kind of a picky eater as a kid. If you tell me, I mean, I don't even know what some of it was, but if you tell me this is fish and I might not want fish, I won't eat the fish. And so I did pick up this one thing that was crunchy, like, really dried and crunchy, and I put in my mouth and I started to chew it, and it scratched at the roof of my mouth and had a real fishy taste. And when I looked back down, I realized they were entire little dried fish. That was the only thing I didn't care for. And it wasn't because I know they were fish. It's because the flavor and the scratchiness wasn't something that I really liked, but the rice and all the other chicken and I don't even know. I don't eat pork, but I don't usually like pork, but I probably ate pork. And it was good because I didn't notice like all of those kinds of things. Yeah, a couple of things were like, oh, spicy, lots of water. But yeah, it was awesome. It was all awesome.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: Oh, great. Did you get some sightseeing and stuff around Taipei as well?
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So we had Sunday. We were going to do that on Wednesday. We arrived on Tuesday. We were going to do that on Wednesday. But literally we hung out in the lobby saying hi to everybody all getting, and then going to the speaker dinner and then getting a good night's sleep because the next day everything starts. So Sunday we built in an extra day on Sunday we say we. I always travel with Jeff from one of my best friends at WordPress. He travels with me. He knows what I need with a scooter and all that.
So we were traveling together. So Jeff and I planned a day of sightseeing at the tail end of things.
So we went to Taipei 101, which when it was built was the third tallest building in the world. It was now the 11th. I did a little research on that. But, yeah, 37 seconds to go from the fifth floor to the 87th floor. Your ears pop like three times in 37 seconds.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: I wish it was like one of those elevators where you could see outside as you go up. But I'm sure people would get sick and stuff like that, which is probably why they don't do it. Yeah. And it takes you to an indoor observation. Right, because the wind and everything is crazy at that level. But there's windows all the way around and there's this room that you go into in the core of the building. And there's this giant golden sphere, I think it said 200 metric tons, this giant golden sphere. And it couldn't be lifted that high by crane. So they had to build it in place with welding and soldering and whatever they do. And then painting it this beautiful, it's steel, this beautiful gold color. It's suspended by cables, like metal cables that are like this wide, like ten inches in diameter. Maybe I'm like the exaggerate, I don't know. And then it's on hydraulic suspension at the bottom and it's called a wind damper because the building is so tall and because of how it sits in the mountains there. And because Taipei gets typhoons and earthquakes, they have to have something that helps stabilize the building during high winds or earth shifting events. And so it didn't move at all. We were there because it was very, just normal day. But if you go on and you look it up, there are some videos of during earthquakes where the thing actually moves in the building, like a good 20. It's just like, if you didn't know I was a nerd before I nerded out over this.
It's a feat. It's a feat of architecture and technology. And, yeah, it was so super cool.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: And then you could go up two more floors and do. You could go out on an observation deck, but on my scooter, they even had a ramp. But even on the scooter, it's like the wall was like three inches above my head. So I held my phone over my head to take some really bad fan pictures because I couldn't see what I was doing. But I got to say, I was up there on, like, the 89th floor or something like that. It was just so cool. It really was. And then we went to the ministry building, which is this beautiful building with a lovely water feature in front, gardens all around. I think it's the Sunyet sun ministry building. A golden roof, like, pagoda style roof. And we walked around there, and then that night we went to the night market, which is unlike anything I've ever been before. Crowds of people like salmon, right? You can only walk one direction down one side and then go back the other side or get a taxi at the other end. We ate food from street vendors that, knock on wood, did not make us ill because we were going to spend the entire next day on a plane.
It was all delicious. Bought some chachkis, some little treats and things to bring home. And, yeah, it was pretty awesome. It really was. And then, of course, hit up duty free or some more trinkets and souvenirs for family and stuff on the way out.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Wow. And next year is going to be in the Philippines.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Is that. Yeah, in Manila. In the Philippines, yeah. Cool. Don't ask me if I'm going to go. I have no idea. It's too early to decide.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: It's so far from now.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: And you're still recovering?
[00:16:59] Speaker A: Exactly.
Like, I haven't even gotten my reimbursement check for my travel expenditures yet. I can't make a decision about next year yet.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I think going on long trips like that, for a word camp, it's kind of like having children. It's like, oh, my gosh, this is so painful. Sitting on this plane for so long. It's like, yes, it's worth it because this was a wonderful experience, but I don't know if I ever want to do this again. But then you forget about it and.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: It'S like, oh, it wasn't that bad.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: Let's have another kid.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: Exactly.
Or cat or dog or whatever, right? Yeah. I mean, I only had the one kid, but. Yeah, exactly like that.
Yeah. But it was just so awesome. And I made so many good connections.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: That's great.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And deepened the connections I have with people already in the community.
It was wonderful. I have nothing but good things to say, except I would maybe take more vitamins. I don't know how I can protect myself anymore than I do. No, I didn't wear a mask at the event. Nobody was wearing a mask at the event, but I think it wasn't COVID. So, I mean, you're just going to get sick sometimes and that's the way that things work out. But that's how people want to come for me. They can come for me every time.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: I've moved, because I've moved quite a few times in the past 20 years.
Gosh, I've moved a lot in my life, but every time I move, I'll sod all into a place and then I'll get sick. It's just like you're in a new place with new people. Your immune system is like, what the heck is this? We're going to work on this for a while. So you're going to take a nap on the sofa for a few days and deal with all this phlegm. It just happens.
That's one thing that really bothers me about. I know we went through a lot of stuff with the pandemic, but this fault finding or blaming, it's no one's fault if you got it.
Masks are imperfect and we've been getting sick. People get sick all the time. It happens.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: And I will say that as soon as I started to feel ill on the way back, I masked on the plane because I wanted to help protect other people. So as soon as I had an inkling that I might not be feeling well, I did mask at that point, if you're listening, I did try to do my best not to infect other people.
Oh, can I tell you the one really funny thing? So there's a big, huge buffet breakfast at the hotel that you pay for whatever, right? So I go into the buffet, met with different people every day that just happened to be around, and we would be like, hey, let's eat together. And it had all different food. It had Thai food, I'm sorry, taiwanese food, it had japanese food, it had american food. They were making omelets. It was just freaking amazing.
And the first two times we went, three times. The first two times we went, I had the same waitress, and her name was Cherry. And I'm just friendly to people, you know how I am. And so when we came back the second day, she's like, oh, yes, you're going to be at my table. Come over here, I'll eat you. Do you want coffee again today? What can I get you? And so the first day, I had given her one of my little Michelle Wapu stickers because she was so nice. And the second day she comes up to me, she goes, look, she had put it on her phone case. So there's a waitress walking around Taipei with a Michelle wapu sticker on her phone. And I just thought that was the sweetest thing.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: That is so cool, so cute.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: So I know what it's like to be at home and watch other word camps happening, and I know how bad it feels sometimes. The FOMO that happens when you're not there and seeing it all happen. I know there were probably people who were, like, muting the hashtag wcasia and all that kind of thing, but hopefully I know you were watching and paying attention because you and I talked about it. Hopefully you still feel joy about it, even if you couldn't be there. And I hope that my joy doesn't make other people like, because they weren't there.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: I just feel happy that everybody.
I've been tired, and so I was like, cool with not going and cool. I mean, there were a few moments where I was just like, fomoing a little bit, but at the same time, I'm like, the amount of hours to get there, the amount of hours to get back, the amount of stress, of just making sure everything, I think I'll just sleep. And that's what the Internet is for. It makes the world a little bit smaller, but you just have to be able to live vicariously through Michelle.
It was great to see how everybody was connected, but I was very happy to just kind of, like, chillax this time and go.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: I will say to anybody listening, if you have an opportunity to attend any of the flagship events and you can and you want to go, I think it's nice that you don't have to be present every single moment. There are quiet spaces. You can leave and go sightsee. You can do whatever you need for yourself and your own self care. But if you have an opportunity and it doesn't stress you out too much, take that opportunity and interact with larger groups of wordpressers. It's just a different experience, you know, it's a different experience that you'll get anywhere else and you were asking me how the different flagships do it.
I've only been to Europe once, and the building in Greece was so spread out that it was challenging here and there. But the sense of community there, because it's a well established camp, too, is amazing. And I think it's very much like Europe itself with all of these different small countries. They don't think of themselves as small until they come over and realize that their country is the size of New York or something. Right. But, like, all of these smaller countries that exist with borders so close to one another, that's what it feels like when you're there, to use an american term, like a melting pot of wordpressers all in the same was. And the food, the food at every word camp is just so amazing.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: And us I've been part of. So it's hard for me to say what we do well because I know what it's like on the inside and what the struggles feel like. And I hope that work campus to outside people looks as amazing as the other camps do when I attend them. Right. Like, it doesn't look like we struggle and those kinds of things, because by the time you all see it, we've worked out all of those kinks and all of the bubbles and those kinds of things to make sure that everybody gets the best experience.
[00:23:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. A lot of work goes into these events, but I think it's all for really good cause.
And I'm hoping to see more, like, localized camps starting to come.
Phoenix did is one of the ones that has, like, all right, we're going to do this thing, and it's been a struggle. It's been hard because I think people are just like, I'll just watch videos online type of thing, which is great and everything, but there's something about sitting next to someone or serendipitously finding out that someone sitting at the same table. Oh, I've read some stuff, like Eric. I can't remember how to pronounce his last name, but, boy, like, I read his stuff. All the I in wordcamp, us, we're.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Like, standing next to each other.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Oh, hi, I'm Kathy. Oh, I'm Eric.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Oh, I read your stuff all the time. I follow you.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: And he's like, I follow you.
Standing next to each other, we didn't recognize who we were or anything, but that kind of serendipitous meeting. And then you can have a conversation. Oh, when you wrote this, I really thought that was great, and you had such great having those kinds of conversations. You don't really have those in the comment session of a video, a YouTube video or anything like that, or Facebook or anything. Just being in the same space as people, I think is so important. So I'm glad you got to go.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: I did. I am, too. Thank you. It was really good.
It's funny because people are like, everybody knows Michelle. It's not true. Everybody does not know Michelle. People who are inside ball players know who Michelle is. Right? So it's fun when I introduce myself to somebody and they're like, so what do you do with WordPress? And I get to talk about some of the things I've done over the years and get to know them. That happened at work, us. I rode in the elevator with somebody, met me, met my daughter, and then he messaged me on Blackpress slack a few weeks later. He's like, I feel like an idiot. I know who you are now, and I can't believe I didn't know who you were then. I'm like, why?
I didn't know who Timothy Chalamet was until this year. And he's been acting for years. It doesn't. Right. Like, so we know each other. That's. That's awesome. Kind of. It is. It's just funny. But it's fun to be able to just kind of fly into the radar sometimes, too.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: Not have to always be on, if you will, or.
Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: It's funny. Sometimes I wear WordPress shirts to target or whatever, and I'm like, I wonder if anybody would ever come up to me and say, oh, are you in the, like, it never, like, I think it would if, like, I was back in Phoenix just because that community is much more active and everything. And I'm just like, I think our WordPress meetups here in Denton are like, difference between posts and pages a little.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: More, not as in depth. They're not developer focused.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Very beginner friendly. I've been wondering, do I want to, if I show up to that, I don't want to blow away, like, this woman's running it and she's, like, doing her thing and I don't want to be like, oh, hey, I'm allowed to be like, I'm here to be of service and to be helpful.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Right?
[00:26:36] Speaker B: It's weird, but, yeah, it's kind of nice to go, like, wear a WordPress shirt and not be incognito. Know what it is?
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: There's this blue post shirt that I have that's, gosh, what does it say on it? But it's got, like, a mountain on it. So I really like it and I love the color. It's like this vibrant kind of bluish. And it says, like, build any mountain or something like that. And I wore it to the gym and this woman came up to me and she's like loving on this shirt. And I'm just like, yeah, it's a hosting company.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: But if you want to build a website rep and blue host, sure, why not? So weird.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: I'm just so used to my family and friends. They all know.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: Exactly. Oh, yeah, there's.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: From that camp.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's funny because even at the hospital last night, the nurse was like, oh, so what do you do? Because I'm like, what's this, an Asia? What were you there for? Spoke at a conference. What do you do? I work in WordPress. Oh, what's that?
And then the guy who was like, taking me down for the CT scan, much younger, this guy's like 22, 23, whatever. And he's like, so what do you do? And I said, well, have you heard of WordPress? Oh, yeah, I know what WordPress is. And I'm like, yes, I expected you would. I said, he's like, I haven't used it, but I know what it is. I'm like, yeah, I work in WordPress.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: Yeah, too fun.
[00:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: I'm repping my gravity form shirt.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you got your astronaut.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: Yeah, the softest shirt.
Jess Frick got one. She's like, feel this shirt. And I'm like, oh, I'm getting one of those.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's nice.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: Soft like butter.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: And I'm rubbing my post status.
I. I had this hat for, um, when I joined the post status team. They sent me the hat, pulled it out of the box, I put it on, hung it on the wall, took it off, put it on. I probably had it for two months before I saw that it's got my name on the back. Oh, really?
[00:28:38] Speaker B: That's funny.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: And it says Michelle.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: That's so funny.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: It is funny, anybody who's listening. And for you too, Kathy. Word camp Buffalo's call for speakers is still open and it happens on Star Wars Day, may the fourth.
[00:28:56] Speaker B: Wow, that's fast. It is less than two months.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Yes, it is. So get those speaker applications in. But it'd be fun to hang out with you. It's a one day camp, so you wouldn't have to be away from home that long either. Just kind of.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: And anybody that stays till Monday, I will take you to Niagara Falls on Sunday. Bring your.
First of all, I'm on steroids right now for this chest infection. So I'm sounding incredibly manic as I'm talking to people. Like, right? I said to a guy this morning, I'm like, I'm not normally like this, like first meeting with somebody at Postmanus.
I don't normally sound this manic. He goes, well, I do. I'm like, well, you're going to have a different me next week because I'll be off the steroids by then.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: That's funny.
[00:29:49] Speaker A: I know I talked a lot this time about things that I did. I appreciate you listening and I love that we can share with one another in such a wonderful way.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Thanks for going so I could at least have somebody to tag along with vicariously and for sharing all of and for doing the Michelle and me and inspiring people to give back.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: I think that's awesome. We raised enough money before the word camp already through the Michelle and me that I was able to help wordcamp, Asia organizer attend their event. Who wouldn't have been able to attend? So it's not just vanity on my part that I want people to take pictures with me. It really is for a good cause and helping underrepresented speakers and organizers be able to attend the camps that they work so hard for.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: That's amazing.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:35] Speaker B: Good work.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: Thank you. Thanks to everybody who contributes to that and thanks for listening today. Kathy, thanks for hanging out with me on a Friday and we'll see everybody else hopefully next week. Bye bye.
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